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Re: Official Mode Cheater

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Kripke wrote: 27 Jul 2021 08:04
Alinoa wrote: 27 Jul 2021 07:49
XXEDGEXX. wrote: 25 Jul 2021 07:30 Had the same today while improving my personal best on StuntD4 too, also heard a lot of other people having this error recently. I guess it must have something to do with the anticheat system going?
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I heard some other players have the same issue

In my case, it's StarBayB5 :(
Hi guys,

Could you please detail when you encounter this issue?

Many thanks :)
When I improve a time on a map in official mode.
Does this happen on every challenge, and every time you improve a record? Or in your case only on one specific map? (StarBayB5)
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Re: Official Mode Cheater

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In my case it's only StarBayB5, I didn't play on other maps, because I don't want "lose" coppers. Maybe other players give more input
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Re: Official Mode Cheater

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It's completely random,
It happens about 50-70% of my improvements
It happens on every map
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Re: Official Mode Cheater

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Mizu wrote: 27 Jul 2021 09:46 It's completely random,
It happens about 50-70% of my improvements
It happens on every map
When you say random, to be clear,

- Are you able to improve on a map, where previously you got an error? For example: You improve a record, and receive the error "Bad record" - you then try again, and it may work correctly after?

Many thanks for answering
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Re: Official Mode Cheater

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Yes, exactly, for example I drove two 52s times that got denied on SnowC4 and then a 51s got accepted,
The time can be 5000th or WR it still has the same issue.
And it happens since the purge
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Re: Official Mode Cheater

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Mizu wrote: 27 Jul 2021 09:55 Yes, exactly, for example I drove two 52s times that got denied on SnowC4 and then a 51s got accepted,
The time can be 5000th or WR it still has the same issue.
And it happens since the purge

Do you have replay files of denied records and accepted records on the same map after the purge?
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Not currently, I can provide them thursday.
By the way a replay of mine was deleted during purge and I did not cheat, i gave alinoa additional infos in PM here
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Re: Official Mode Cheater

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Same issue here. Like for others, it happens on random maps, some work, the rest don't. For me it seems like if a map is "broken" it always gives me an error (unlike in Mizu's case), but I didn't test it enough, since I'm not fancying wasting coppers. I have only one denied replay saved as I was too frustrated at that moment to save others.
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Re: Official Mode Cheater

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I think it will be helpful to have replays of rejected records. Even better if there is also a replay of an accepted record on the same map in a short time / same play session

Feel free to contact me with that as I collect information regarding this issue, include account name + challenge + replay(s) and which were rejected and accepted.

I cannot reproduce the issue myself at this moment
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Re: Official Mode Cheater

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Any update on my deleted replay?
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Re: Official Mode Cheater

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Mizu wrote: 28 Jul 2021 16:51 Any update on my deleted replay?
Not yet. This may take some time.

Also would still like to gather more information on records not being accepted, ideally even network connection speed, FPS the game runs at for you, or data showing this, location, anything that could help us identify the issue
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Re: Official Mode Cheater

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Pls tripple check following records from bob92reg:

Island A2, A3, B2, C3
Desert A1, A2, A5, B1, B2, B3, B4, B5
Rally A2, A3, B2, B5, C2, D2, D3
Bay B1, B5
Coast A2, A3, A4, A5, B4, B5, C1, C2, C4, D1, D2, D3, D4, D5
Snow B3

Starisland C1
Stardesert A2, A3, A4
Starrally A1, A4, B2, C1, C3, C5, D1, D2, D3, D5
Starbay B2, C2
Starcoast A2, A3, A5, B1, B3, B4, C1, C2, C3, C4, C5, D1, D2, D3, D4, E
Starsnow B2, B3, B5, C4

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Re: Official Mode Cheater

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Hey !
These times aren't cheated but since they are smurfs, is there a possibility to remove them ?

IslandA3
maxdark11 : 18.39
sortile12 : 18.41
daftdef : 18.44
exp. : 18.45

IslandB3
daftdef : 26.41
exp. : 26.42
maxdark11 : 26.45

DesertA5
maxdark11 : 18.08
sortile12 : 18.08

DesertB1
sortile12 : 13.64
maxdark11 : 13.66

SnowB2
sortile12 : 18.69
maxdark11 : 18.85

SnowB5
maxdark11 : 20.76

IslandB2
sortile12 : 22.86 (literally driven in 20 coppers while I was messing around xd)
exp. : 22.98
daftdef : 23.05

IslandC1
daftdef : 31.31
exp. : 31.32

All of these times were driven in 2015 until early 2017 while I was messing around on secondary accounts, and now that the leaderboard is somewhat clean I think it's time to do some removals ;)
(NB : there might be other "high" records by maxdark11 but I can't figure out all of them, I only noted the most significant ones in term of SP).
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Re: Official Mode Cheater

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Kripke wrote: 29 Jul 2021 11:41 Pls tripple check following records from bob92reg:

Island A2, A3, B2, C3
Desert A1, A2, A5, B1, B2, B3, B4, B5
Rally A2, A3, B2, B5, C2, D2, D3
Bay B1, B5
Coast A2, A3, A4, A5, B4, B5, C1, C2, C4, D1, D2, D3, D4, D5
Snow B3

Starisland C1
Stardesert A2, A3, A4
Starrally A1, A4, B2, C1, C3, C5, D1, D2, D3, D5
Starbay B2, C2
Starcoast A2, A3, A5, B1, B3, B4, C1, C2, C3, C4, C5, D1, D2, D3, D4, E
Starsnow B2, B3, B5, C4

I got the list MEFjihr
Here's video showcasing few of his "runs"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XluuVs_zQXI
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Re: Official Mode Cheater

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Phoebelicious wrote: 27 Jul 2021 09:18
Kripke wrote: 27 Jul 2021 08:04
Alinoa wrote: 27 Jul 2021 07:49

Hi guys,

Could you please detail when you encounter this issue?

Many thanks :)
When I improve a time on a map in official mode.
Does this happen on every challenge, and every time you improve a record? Or in your case only on one specific map? (StarBayB5)
For me it happens the more I "tap" my stick. FPS don't seem to matter.

@Alinoa my WR (?) on DesertE was removed. Since I play desert in "tapping" style, this might be the reason.

I appreciate that Nadeo puts some effort into cheating prevention, but it's obvious the team put 0 testing into this and just yolo'ed releasing it.