No, that's just as well, because without checkpoints in a track (or in this case, game mode) that are stored with a records on the Dedimania master server, it's very hard to detect and prove cheating anyway.Dexu wrote:but damn that dedi doesnt support stunt
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Re: Cheater
Possibly, but his entry has one more CP than the track, so it could be a glitch too. That happens occasionally.»Enryx« wrote:patrickbresterviig obviously cheated on StarStadiumB4.
I just deleted it.
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Re: Cheater
I don't know much about this, so feel free to flame me or whatever if this comes across as stupid, but would it be possible to code something up that maybe checks if any game trainers or some such tool are active with a player when they log in to a server ?Xymph wrote: No, that's just as well, because without checkpoints in a track (or in this case, game mode) that are stored with a records on the Dedimania master server, it's very hard to detect and prove cheating anyway.
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There's nothing in the data available about players on the server (via GetDetailedPlayerInfo and the like) that reveals or could reveal anything like that. So no, I don't think that's possible.Ant wrote:I don't know much about this, so feel free to flame me or whatever if this comes across as stupid, but would it be possible to code something up that maybe checks if any game trainers or some such tool are active with a player when they log in to a server ?
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Re: Cheater
Xymph, how is it possible that cheated records are saved by dedimania anyway? I thought cheats receive an instant autoban due to invalid time error on any server with server control like xaseco.
Re: Cheater
1) Only some specific (old) types of cheating were detected by XAseco, current types aren't.Queen Jadis wrote:Xymph, how is it possible that cheated records are saved by dedimania anyway? I thought cheats receive an instant autoban due to invalid time error on any server with server control like xaseco.
2) That detection by default didn't ban the pertaining player, it would have to be configured that way by the admin.
3) That ban would apply locally anyway, not to the Dedimania master server.
4) Not all servers are running XAseco.
5) Other servers controllers may or may not attempt cheat detection (I'm guessing most don't).
How many reasons do you need?

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Re: Cheater
That's enough, thanks
. I did not know about new types of cheating. They always find new ways of destroying the game, don't they?

Re: Cheater
A slow first week made me decide to save the report for another week, but then the cheating pace went up again, culminating in 10 new bans today for all the cheating that happened yesterday. Sigh.
Here's the whole list of banned/globally blacklisted logins:
fnjtrh, pepesp, alexgrand, martin2547, lpgrazer1337, deamian, poppineyeballs, marcoboy123, prog93, rutgerrrrrrr, blitz250, akoskiller, _-lap, lalala_hey_hey, _o_s_43rh4ck3r, toldi750, kvg700, auaandre, dnauser655546564, actione, gyudasgdbnabnk_, cesaaar, mitch62840, crazytecktonikkiller, ________________-______, master_of_papets, _00f_daniel, cobraa121, michiel46, martin3555, the_best_of_chile, -polina-_, _i_w__f00_dominik_f8012__, assassin1144775, romanovskis, jakub669, robins3, samuelson_alves, tsw-95, supreme333, chupa-chups-return, nicolashornndu37, lollo_swiss, chupa_chups34, kenjik, servernat06, andzia_pl, super_edward, teleportmax, noxy11, depp12345, _w_fffko_f90n_fffgs_f00re, korpiklaani123, bbbbigm, chris8422
while final warnings apply to:
vhenyr, csh_, bryan199810, daniel___dh_freak, koenas11, janj2, ryder227, sacrioti, -__-_-____-_-_-________-_, jcsc46, jigsaw80, albania_4ever4, saka_15, legend122, legend213, hellocgfd, hacker-master, blane555, atom33, motogp2322, chupa-chups-chips, assasine_creed, roshgarroth, sh00t3rd3fr1t3, pkzr, risenexpert22, noitorajiruga, yannicl, floxes

fnjtrh, pepesp, alexgrand, martin2547, lpgrazer1337, deamian, poppineyeballs, marcoboy123, prog93, rutgerrrrrrr, blitz250, akoskiller, _-lap, lalala_hey_hey, _o_s_43rh4ck3r, toldi750, kvg700, auaandre, dnauser655546564, actione, gyudasgdbnabnk_, cesaaar, mitch62840, crazytecktonikkiller, ________________-______, master_of_papets, _00f_daniel, cobraa121, michiel46, martin3555, the_best_of_chile, -polina-_, _i_w__f00_dominik_f8012__, assassin1144775, romanovskis, jakub669, robins3, samuelson_alves, tsw-95, supreme333, chupa-chups-return, nicolashornndu37, lollo_swiss, chupa_chups34, kenjik, servernat06, andzia_pl, super_edward, teleportmax, noxy11, depp12345, _w_fffko_f90n_fffgs_f00re, korpiklaani123, bbbbigm, chris8422
while final warnings apply to:
vhenyr, csh_, bryan199810, daniel___dh_freak, koenas11, janj2, ryder227, sacrioti, -__-_-____-_-_-________-_, jcsc46, jigsaw80, albania_4ever4, saka_15, legend122, legend213, hellocgfd, hacker-master, blane555, atom33, motogp2322, chupa-chups-chips, assasine_creed, roshgarroth, sh00t3rd3fr1t3, pkzr, risenexpert22, noitorajiruga, yannicl, floxes
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Cheater
Hello, I'm here to report some
Here ss :
BlackPro921 :
http://img856.imageshack.us/g/blackpro9211.png/
Jan:
http://img863.imageshack.us/g/jan1.png/
L Speedy :
http://img820.imageshack.us/g/lspeedy1.png/
MUMU:
http://img101.imageshack.us/i/mumu.png/
Speed Racer:
http://img853.imageshack.us/g/speedracer.png/
Super_edward:
http://img847.imageshack.us/g/superedward.png/
Nowy:
http://img860.imageshack.us/g/nowy1.png/
Thanks, BB
Here ss :
BlackPro921 :
http://img856.imageshack.us/g/blackpro9211.png/
Jan:
http://img863.imageshack.us/g/jan1.png/
L Speedy :
http://img820.imageshack.us/g/lspeedy1.png/
MUMU:
http://img101.imageshack.us/i/mumu.png/
Speed Racer:
http://img853.imageshack.us/g/speedracer.png/
Super_edward:
http://img847.imageshack.us/g/superedward.png/
Nowy:
http://img860.imageshack.us/g/nowy1.png/
Thanks, BB
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Re: Cheater
1. Don't create a new thread. Hopefully a mod can merge it into this one.
2. Screenshots are pretty useless for the essential info, especially when sized down so far that text becomes unreadable.
3. I need text info to be able to investigate, not a slow-loading image site.
4. Essential info are the player logins, not nicknames, and optionally track UIDs.
In short, reports are welcome, but make them easy to investigate, not harder.
2. Screenshots are pretty useless for the essential info, especially when sized down so far that text becomes unreadable.
3. I need text info to be able to investigate, not a slow-loading image site.
4. Essential info are the player logins, not nicknames, and optionally track UIDs.
In short, reports are welcome, but make them easy to investigate, not harder.

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Re: Cheater
He reported a guy called blackpro921. If it's the same blackpro921 I met

then he's already banned from dedi (his login is something like zrrrrgrrrzzgggrrrr, I saw it in a previous page)
Too bad he has more than 1 account (seeing his YT videos, at least 3). One of them has login blackpro921, the other 1 idk
I dont know any of the other cheaters he reported
Edit: zrrrrgrrrzzzzzgrrrrrrrrrr http://tm-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=186045#p186045
The following logins are cheating since weeks on stunts, keep an eye on them
tapani96 (nick: OBAMA)
dani_the_king_of_hockey (nick: OMAS 4 LIFE)
valentindeboujan (nick: *ि .〄.ゐ} ĎξΠONIAK)
[that one Dexu reported] (nick: ||:D||)
"|:D| <- ist eine cheater" unknown login
skotacka (nick: K C A X)
"wtf? Herulo." unknown login
Then (xD) I found some old screenshots I took of cheaters on race (dedi)
jimkig (track: cfh-lolmap-15 Time 0:09.58)
stjepan.cro (track: Some Mini 01 Time 0:17.39)
Sorry I dont have UID of the track
idk how much old are these recs and/or if they are already deleted
Cheers

then he's already banned from dedi (his login is something like zrrrrgrrrzzgggrrrr, I saw it in a previous page)
Too bad he has more than 1 account (seeing his YT videos, at least 3). One of them has login blackpro921, the other 1 idk
I dont know any of the other cheaters he reported
Edit: zrrrrgrrrzzzzzgrrrrrrrrrr http://tm-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=186045#p186045
The following logins are cheating since weeks on stunts, keep an eye on them

tapani96 (nick: OBAMA)
dani_the_king_of_hockey (nick: OMAS 4 LIFE)
valentindeboujan (nick: *ि .〄.ゐ} ĎξΠONIAK)
[that one Dexu reported] (nick: ||:D||)
"|:D| <- ist eine cheater" unknown login
skotacka (nick: K C A X)
"wtf? Herulo." unknown login
Then (xD) I found some old screenshots I took of cheaters on race (dedi)
jimkig (track: cfh-lolmap-15 Time 0:09.58)
stjepan.cro (track: Some Mini 01 Time 0:17.39)
Sorry I dont have UID of the track
idk how much old are these recs and/or if they are already deleted
Cheers
Re: Cheater
Yes, Blackpro is a notorious cheater, a whole bunch of his logins are already banned. But that didn't help with all the other entries TMNightmare reported.»Enryx« wrote:He reported a guy called blackpro921.
I won't and can't, until they pop up on Dedimania.»Enryx« wrote:The following logins are cheating since weeks on stunts, keep an eye on them
There are no recs by jimkig, and nothing matching the one you list for stjepan.cro.»Enryx« wrote: Then (xD) I found some old screenshots I took of cheaters on race (dedi)
jimkig (track: cfh-lolmap-15 Time 0:09.58)
stjepan.cro (track: Some Mini 01 Time 0:17.39)
Sorry I dont have UID of the track
idk how much old are these recs and/or if they are already deleted
Try to stick to cheat suspects that are active now.

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Re: Cheater
I woul like to report a cheater.
I was driving together with my friend dreke ( login: 69dre69) at our server and i guy came in. He made a bet of 20 coppers.
Afterwards he put a impossible rec on a very short track.
His login is the_one_piece.
I was driving together with my friend dreke ( login: 69dre69) at our server and i guy came in. He made a bet of 20 coppers.
Afterwards he put a impossible rec on a very short track.
His login is the_one_piece.