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IMPORTANT UPDATE

A new version of ESWC04-02 is available without the two cuts as two checkpoints have been added to take off the problem. New ESWC-04-02 track without cuts is available in the pack: ftp://ftp.eswc.com/regulations/2008/pre ... y_pack.zip


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You can download the official pack of tracks which will be used during national preliminaries in April and May 2008 here: ftp://ftp.eswc.com/regulations/2008/preliminaries/files/trackmania/ESWC_TMN_april_may_pack.zip

I have a serious question - there are some cuts in this track of packs ... is it generally allowed to use cuts?

For example on ESWC-04-02, there are two really huge cuts, which are most probably not meant to be used by the author ... I need to know, whether these cuts are allowed or not, since there are LANs upcoming and we need to practice these tracks, so please give us a definite answer =)

Thanks in advance

Its not cut, if you do not change direction of way... cut between 2 CPs is not cut for me, and thats how I train :p

Of course it is a cut lol =)

Imagine this track is being played in a Grand Final, cars suddenly leaving the normal line and jumping to a different part of the track ... everyone would be like WTF are they doing there? It's not attractive anymore, makes the track just look plain stupid + it takes away the flow of a track, especially on 02!

indeed

for me a cut is, when you change the order of cp's. Beside that, everybody who plays ESWC will know these "cuts", so it is fair for all.

So we should train the cuts then?

- mayb there should be a ruleset for "which cut is allowed and which isnt"
- or just update the tracks and remove cuts?

just found a cut on 04-05,... after last cp - jump right to the finish

Sure, its cut... but I mean, this type of cuts is allowed, so its not "cut" :p Rebuild track, Or am using any kind of allowed racing

hey gaLLo, it cant be counted as a cut, really. The track is build, that it can be jumped and you know...it isnt faster too, because you loose a lot of speed by hitting the road.

So what about the cut on 08 then? You can just jump off the track at second 50 or something and do a time of 56/57 ... this is also between 2 CPs (last CP and Finish) and still it's **** plain stupid!

So, ESWC officials - please do something and allow/disallow cuts officially, this is getting annoying! Ty

indeed gallo *cough*

gaLLo, what cuts are you talking about on 4-2? I don't see any "huge" ones. As for 4-8, isn't that "cut" intended? I mean, if you're going fast enough, you deserve the 56/57. I think it would be fair if the ESWC banned any cuts, but as for the ones being discussed on 4-2, be specific - which ones/how much do they affect your time?

I will check this issue as quick as possible.

Sorry, I am mistaken - there seem to be two different versions of ESWC-04-08 lurking around, one having 5 finishes in total (cut possible), the probably fixed one only has three (cut NOT possible). And the fixed version is included in the official pack of tracks, so problem solved concerning that track =)

Still I would like to know, whether cutting on ESWC-04-02 is allowed, since (in my opinion) the first cut makes you gain 0.5 if you take it perfectly.

The ESWC-04-08 who are on the ESWC-TRAINING IT'S A BIG FAKE MAP !!!!!!
It is a person which had a good time changes my map and it put it on the server ESWC-TRAINING while this map is under no circumstances mine DL the pack ice in the top of the page is enough and you will see definitely that mine do not have 5 finishes but three normal. (if you read names authors definitely the good map it is "RapT" and the fake map it is " .rapt. ").