Cheater !!!

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Re: Cheater !!!

Post by SaKrifeD » 07 Jan 2008 17:01

Is it possible to ban this player forever (artyr)? This Screen show his action today @ 16:54 "Stadium Fun Server"

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Re: Cheater !!!

Post by xbx » 10 Jan 2008 15:42

hi!
Balu wrote:I installed the latest build yesterday and Mr. Artyr got kicked from the incoherence check just a few minutes ago.
But hes still able to pass the Blacklist so that issue should be checked by Nadeo IMO.
so, just to make sure, (correct me if I'm wrong!)
there are two distinct things going on:
- (1) when the server detected he cheated, he was banned.
- (2) you edited the blacklist file to add his login "artyr".
but (2) has no effect, he can still connect.

correct?
And was he able to connect back just after being banned(1)?

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Re: Cheater !!!

Post by Goglu2 » 10 Jan 2008 15:59

He is running Mistral version of aseco, mistral version clears the banlist when it detects an incoherence. if the login is in the blacklist he shouldn't be able to come back, at least it works on my server.

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Re: Cheater !!!

Post by Mistral » 10 Jan 2008 16:35

The incoherence bans are kinda buggy (seen in one tool, not in another a.s.o.), thats why i clean the banlist.

BLACKLIST and BANLIST are two completely different things anyway. I never saw someone come in when hes on the blacklist.

BANlist is kinda temporary, not saved on server restart.
BLACKlist ist saved and loaded from the server.

Anyway: The incoherence detection isnt perfect. It might happen people are banned while not cheating.

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Re: Cheater !!!

Post by Balu » 11 Jan 2008 10:54

Hello
As i stated before we were guilty in running an older dedicated without the incoherence proof.
He used his cheat with success because no automatic ban applied. After the second incident we added him to the permanent Blacklist. But unfortunatly he was still able to join. We tested Blacklist funktion with another account and it worked fine.

After i installed the latest Version of the Dedicated he was still on the Blacklist but still was able to join with his blacklisted TMU Login. He of course tried his cheat again but got caught by the incoherence check and was kicked.
Again we did a Blacklist Test with the newest Dedicated and another account and it worked as it should.

Obviously he realised that we are running this dedicated now because he wasnt seen since then.

So, the incoherence is kinda working but hes still able to pass the Blacklist, which is of course a serious matter.


Thanks for looking into this, Nadeo

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Re: Cheater !!!

Post by Firebengel » 18 Jan 2008 21:14

I have the same Problem with that guy : see my log :

[01/18,21:50:48] players.Event[PlayerCheckpoint]('artyr',18660,2,3) (0,0)
[01/18,21:50:48] players.Event[Player[01/18,21:50:48] players.Event[PlayerCheckpoint]('artyr',18660,2,3) (0,0)
[01/18,21:50:48] players.Event[PlayerIncoherence]('artyr')
[01/18,21:50:49] Error: callMulti (0+2/2) - system.multicall - parse error. not well formed [-32700]
Artyr causes an players.Event[PlayerIncoherence]('artyr'). After that the ban list is not formed well and calls a parse error.

I had this "bug" several times ago. i have all my log stored.
Please get this Player offline.

If you need some serverlogs of him ...ask firebengel@web.de

To get my server running normaly i have to do a restart. I put him on blacklist now, hope that he won't reach my server again !

Please do not give him a chance to do that with other servers !!

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Re: Cheater !!!

Post by Mostrom » 20 Jan 2008 14:29

Since it is on the same topic i'll borrow this thread for another cheater!

He call himself bexen and he is beating the solo-track-records with over 1 sec even though he's driving quite bad, just checked his replays.

The replay itself is named IslandB3_kristen_... so i suppose his login is thereby kristen.

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Re: Cheater !!!

Post by RKO90 » 20 Jan 2008 15:10

Reporting another cheater here...
I saw it quite a long time ago, and I said: "Oh well, it will be auto-deleted as always". But it's still here.
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I downloaded the replay, it's valid and the time is effectively 22.91.
But it seems that he's driving on normal road, and not on dirt :shock:
Wtf is that, physics editing? :S

-Replay here: Replay

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Re: Cheater !!!

Post by Zooz » 20 Jan 2008 16:20

Yes, I reported that one to Florent yesterday, and he read it, no reply though.

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Re: Cheater !!!

Post by Florent » 20 Jan 2008 16:35

it is important to report records that stays, because they are automatically removed now and then.

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Re: Cheater !!!

Post by Zooz » 20 Jan 2008 18:23

I think it's more worrying that he bended the block physics somehow, who cares about a few cheater times in the boards ^^

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Re: Cheater !!!

Post by The Doctor » 21 Jan 2008 21:27

Thanks for the heads up about the cheaters. Blacklisted.

But I had an interesting glitch happen to me in Nations. All the lower half pipe pieces disappeared for me while I was racing online. Here is a screen shot from my point of view.
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I could see the other drivers driving in what looked like thin air. And they saw me driving through an apparently solid surface. It happen to me one day only. And hasn't happened again.
My point is, even though I can't seem to duplicate the event, I was able to drive valid times on the server on some tracks. It seems that there is a hole in the surface interface with the vehicle. Thus physics hacking is entirely possible along with just making some elements go away. The server, Tet19 Music Tower, didn't detect anything.

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Re: Cheater !!!

Post by itsjustme » 24 Jan 2008 12:58

Can someone tell me , how proof this incoherence detection is ?

One of the worlds top players is caught by this detection on our server.
And to be honest, it's hard to believe :?

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Re: Cheater !!!

Post by Zooz » 24 Jan 2008 13:18

There can be false alarms, anyone who opens the menu as they cross the finish get autobanned for example. In our LE9 match two days ago, which I hosted, one of our players got autobanned when he tried to switch team while finishing. I doubt he cheated xD

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Re: Cheater !!!

Post by PANsen » 24 Jan 2008 13:57

yes. when someone gets caught one time, its no big deal. but when someone is caught every time he plays, something must be wrong with him^^ normally everyone knows after the first time that it isnt good to keep the menu open while finishing ;D

@ zooz: any new news on the stadium-b1-WR-guy?^^ i am quite interested to this issue... i cant see any way how he managed to turn off the slippy physics on dirt
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