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Re: Referee Questions.

Post by Sithnar » 10 Jan 2009 19:37

but it would require a united account right/

can a dedicated server account be used for ref?
as my server is setup with a united install.

we need to get the ref on there as we had a cheater on the other night, [DCC]LowFinger getting records of 1 second on some tracks. kinda stupid really.

Also does someone know HOW to do this cheating so i can test the ref out to see what it does?

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Re: Referee Questions.

Post by Slig » 10 Jan 2009 20:11

Sithnar wrote:but it would require a united account right/
can a dedicated server account be used for ref?
as my server is setup with a united install.
As i know, you need a TMU/TMUF login for referee as it is a game.
Generally if you really need a referee it's because you have a high level ladder server, so you have coppers, so you can probably buy a cdkey/game with 30000 coppers ;)
Sithnar wrote:we need to get the ref on there as we had a cheater on the other night, [DCC]LowFinger getting records of 1 second on some tracks. kinda stupid really.
i think it is easier to just blacklist those players on your server. btw if you have a cdkey and a computer to make a permanent referee, why not...
Sithnar wrote:Also does someone know HOW to do this cheating so i can test the ref out to see what it does?
You can just start the referee with your game (use last game FIX !), so just test it ;)

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Re: Referee Questions.

Post by Knutselmaaster » 10 Jan 2009 21:39

If your server has tmuf tracks, you need a tmuf account for the referee. Ultimately you can use your own account whenever you're not playing the game. When you are playing on your server you can manually use the ingame validation when a record is "suspect", that leaves your server without a referee only when you are playing elsewhere. I have asked the members of my team to validate every rec they don't trust and as there is someone on my server allmost all the time that covers about everything, alltogether.

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Re: Referee Questions.

Post by FoxShadow » 12 Nov 2009 12:02

Hi all :D

I wish to share my experience with the referee and try to understand what was wrong.

I'm Admin of a new 80-100k RoC Server and of course I need to use the referee function during on Sunday the RoC hours.
I've tested the referee a day before the sunday and happened some no reason bans including me. :?

Hapened also during Sunday on the RoC and using the referee from another computer (a friend, Genosis) with totally another internet connection and better than mine. This time baneed others players.
I have the lastest client v2.11.23 (also my friend) and lastest dedicated server. But, dedicated run from a host and referee runs on our PCs remote conected to the dedicated. Is impossible to me run it inside the host (sorry)

The issues seems hapen in some particular tracks with some particular players, If a guy was banned one time in a track he will be banned every time he reaches the finish of that track, so don´t looks like a replay failed to transfered to the referee, is very strange.
The validation replay just shows a car in the middle of nowhere doing nothing. :ftw:

I have the validation replays and referees logs. If someone are interesting I can upload them.
Someone of you got similiar issues too ?

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Re: Referee Questions.

Post by Knutselmaaster » 12 Nov 2009 13:17

Is the referee using the newest client too?
Does it happen when you go back to an old version of the client?
Are you using the newest serverversion?
Does it still happen when you go back to an old version?

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Re: Referee Questions.

Post by FoxShadow » 12 Nov 2009 13:29

Hi Knutselmaaster

Thanks for your reply.
Knutselmaaster wrote:Is the referee using the newest client too?
Yes, 2.11.23 (or 2009-10-09)
Knutselmaaster wrote:Does it happen when you go back to an old version of the client?
I can try, but I think should be better using the lastest client (because login spoofing, cheats, etc.)
Knutselmaaster wrote:Are you using the newest serverversion?
Yes, 2009-10-09 too.
Knutselmaaster wrote:Does it still happen when you go back to an old version?
Again, I can test with an old version, but I prefer use the lastest in order to avoid login spoofing and cheats.

I´ll try to test with an old version of both dedicated and client, but I think that´s not the solution.
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Re: Referee Questions.

Post by Knutselmaaster » 12 Nov 2009 15:53

It isn't a solution but it will help finding out where the problem is.

Don't know if the referee in the newest version finds "newer" cheats.
Login spoofing is found by the server if i recall right...

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Re: Referee Questions.

Post by FoxShadow » 13 Nov 2009 12:36

I will try with 2.11.19 client this weekend and post the results. :thumbsup:

btw...
No comments from others RoC servers admins ?
Don´t have any issues with referee ?
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Re: Referee Questions.

Post by FoxShadow » 23 Nov 2009 12:05

Referee version 2.11.19, same results:

ESL - Hockolicious: 2 people banned last Sunday. :?
There is something wrong with the track and some players ? maybe related with the validation seed ?

Next time I´ll update dedicated to the lastest version, and try with lastest client (2009-11-19)
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Re: Referee Questions.

Post by FoxShadow » 03 Jan 2010 17:59

Well, I'm sorry for the late reply, but I was needing to be sure before posting my results.
No problem so far since I'm using:

-Dedicated Server 2009-11-19.
-Referee version (game client version) 2.11.25 (2009-11-19).
-And forced players to upgrade to min version 2.11.19 (2008-11-26) in order to join the server.

Thanks for fix the issue. :1
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