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 Post subject: Invalid server ladder 80k
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:16 pm 
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hi guys... i found today a server which have invalid maps..

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please do something against this server... and look on the other server from this team... thank you :)


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 Post subject: Re: Invalid server ladder 80k
PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:34 pm 
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Thx a lot for your info about this server Paddi. Author's time seems as 38sec, probably some cut in this map. We will handle this situations asap.

Pls do all that you spot a ladder server which is against nadeo rules to inform us about the situation, by stating the name of server and what is happening. Screenshots are also preferable.

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 Post subject: Re: Invalid server ladder 80k
PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:21 pm 
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The name says it , krapz server.
So there are a lot of " crap " tracks.

I believe they make own maps , maybe with some huge cuts.

Drove there a few times , nice server.


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 Post subject: Re: Invalid server ladder 80k
PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:36 pm 
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GAS.Panos wrote:
Thx a lot for your info about this server Paddi. Author's time seems as 38sec, probably some cut in this map.


not all..the most tracks you can't cut.. so maps are shorter than 30 sec..

here next picture for you!:)
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Cut? no way.. :roflol:


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 Post subject: Re: Invalid server ladder 80k
PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:41 pm 
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Server has been downgraded as it had a lot of cut / lol maps which are not allowed in 40-80 ladder servers (driven times way below than author/gold times). It also had a warning message of banning people if they try to recruit people in other team while being in server = bad reason for ban.
Owner had been informed, still in process of monitoring whether it will be upgraded again or not...

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 Post subject: Re: Invalid server ladder 80k
PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:37 pm 
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GAS.Panos wrote:
It also had a warning message of banning people if they try to recruit people in other team while being in server = bad reason for ban.

Why is that a bad reason...
It's very annoying when in a team's server people recruit players for their own teams
and if it's not allowed on the server people should not do that (perhaps muting or kicking would be enough..)

(P.s. I have nothing to do with DukeZ team/servers, posting opinion) ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Invalid server ladder 80k
PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:51 pm 
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»Enryx« wrote:
GAS.Panos wrote:
It also had a warning message of banning people if they try to recruit people in other team while being in server = bad reason for ban.

Why is that a bad reason...
It's very annoying when in a team's server people recruit players for their own teams
and if it's not allowed on the server people should not do that (perhaps muting or kicking would be enough..)

(P.s. I have nothing to do with DukeZ team/servers, posting opinion) ;)

It shouldn't be annoying when you have your team and you have selected which players you want to have. Servers must be public for all, and not get banned for silly reasons like this.
Main reason for downgrading wasn't the comment, but i suggested to remove it and also not ban people for same reasons.

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 Post subject: Re: Invalid server ladder 80k
PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:06 pm 
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Sure I get it ^^

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 Post subject: Re: Invalid server ladder 80k
PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:10 pm 
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I not agree.

It's just annoying when you have a team and someone is trying to steel all youre good drivers on youre own server.

I kick people too if they do that ! Sorry :)


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 Post subject: Re: Invalid server ladder 80k
PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:18 pm 
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It's annoying, but it's a bad reason for ban. Warn and kick is enough, why ban ? ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Invalid server ladder 80k
PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:41 pm 
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weasel wrote:
I not agree.

It's just annoying when you have a team and someone is trying to steel all youre good drivers on youre own server.

I kick people too if they do that ! Sorry :)

I don't know how to translate your comment... Well, there are two ways.
1st. Steel your team's good drivers
2nd. Steel any good drivers not in your team

Well if any of your teammates leave from your team to go to the one who is recruiting, they should't be in your team at first place = no need to be in your team.
On the other hand, if he/she "steels" any or all of the good players in your server, but not in your team then why weren't in your team ? As a conclusion, good or not, if they wanted to be in your team they would have been by that time.
So, as you see, both explanations are wrong based on common logic, and banning should or must be avoided. Ladder servers have to be public, and ban should be applied to cheaters/hackers or to any who behaves in an extreme way.
In your case i would try to warn first, either by asking to stop or by muting for some minutes and unmuting after, in order to check if behaviour changed.
Personally, i wouldn't do anything of the above, cause i know which members i have and how strongly bonded are with the team = no fear about recruiting by others. Also, don't forget that everyone is free to join in any team he/she wants.

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 Post subject: Re: Invalid server ladder 80k
PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:45 pm 
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Damn , youre explanation is good :)

Ban is a bit to hard but after a warning I ask people to leave, if not then tada.

You have such a pro team , we lost our members to better clans then us so I was done with it.
And I prommissed myself to kick people if they were recrute drivers on my server.


But I understand what you mean, it's all about loyalty.

So now I'm teamless :) You need any drivers ?


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 Post subject: Re: Invalid server ladder 80k
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:00 am 
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hi all...
found next invalid ladder server..

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